Whence comes the BLACK color to ELI / CARVER / BOUDREAUX dogs, being
that they all are Tudor's "DIBO" family and "DIBO" was buckskin color? - The HENRY´s Dogs. (By
Mariano Peinado. 2014/06/21)
THE
HENRY´s DOGS (Updated May
21, 2023) at the bottom or at the following link: https://www.fiapbt.net/henry..html
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Online Pedigree TUDOR'S “DIBO”:
TUDOR'S “DIBO” in the Earl Tudor yard in Hobart, Oklahoma in 1958, the
same year that he died.
INTRODUCTION
To make this report I've adhered to common sense,
honesty and be the more neutral than I have been able to expose my point of view
to make this work with all my good intention, based on experiences that I had
lived since many years before the onset the Internet on society, the years 80
till nowadays with old dogmen and in the USA places where occurred some
historical events narrated in this work.
By other way, to make clear that I do not come to this
place to CONVINCE anyone, since I
believe that to want to try to convince someone is not honest nor correct. I
believe that to want to try convince anyone is equivalent to try to wanting to
manipulate the thought of others, try to limit the freedom of the individual
people to think and do what they wish and I believe that it is not correct. The
right and ideal thing, is that everyone show their own judgment and make their
own conclusions on any subject or matter that will come here and there.
First of all, I would like to reflect and analyze the
term "half-truths"
circumstance that some, dastardly unfortunately often develop for their own
benefit and interest, to try to make some lies in truth in the view of another
people, to try to get convince them
by something that interests them for some reason. I think the
"half-truths" are even worse than lies. A lie is a lie. However, the "half truth" is intended to
make up a circumstance, for what the lies and falsehood accommodate great in
the situation, with some credibility, as if it were a great truth without
being, obviously to convenience and interest for the people who pass the
"half-truth" without any values or scruples, with one exception, that
of those who pass the "half-truth" simply by what they heard to
others, which makes them sin of ignorants, without criteria own.
May
30, 1998, Phoenix, Arizona, U.S.A., The “DIBO´s” cradle
In the picture, Mariano
Peinado with his good friend Mr. Dwight Stubbs, with his dog “DIBO” family called Heinzl´s (Stubbs) "Ollie” with
the same color buckskin from "DIBO". "Ollie” was at that time 12 years,
he was a great reproducer. "Ollie” was the father of very good dogs such as Nowell's “Lil Independent”, (Stubbs)
"Mrs. Heinzl”, etc. "Ollie" was still alive at that
time, was one of the best American Pit Bull Terrier bred by the Reverend Howard
Heinzl. Mr. Stubbs, kept the dogs and the
genetics of his good friend the Reverend when he died in 1989 of stomach
cancer. Mr. Stubbs also enjoyed much breeding descendants of Carver's (Davis) “Midnight Cowboy”,
from Boudreaux' “Maverick”." Mr. Stubbs, a great dogmen and
exceptional people, all a gentleman. Good job Mr. Stubbs!!! Thank you!!!edad y es el padre de " Mrs. Heinzl ” . " Ollie " que aún estaba con vida en ese momento, fue uno"Mrs. Heinzl”. "Ollie” was one of the best American Pit Bull Terrier bred by
the Reverend Howard Heinzl and that
was still alive at that time. Mr. Stubbs keep with life very
well the Heinzl blood till nowadays
since his good friend the Reverend
died in 1989 of stomach cancer. Mr.
Stubbs Carver's (Davis) “Midnight Cowboy”, Boudreaux' “Maverick”. Mr. Stubbs Good job Mr. Stubbs!!!
Thank you!!!
El Reverendo Howard Heinzl.
1918 – 1989 (R.I.P.) HEINZL´S “ARIZONA PETE”
Los hermanos de camada TUDOR´S “DIBO”, HEINZL´S “ARIZONA PETE”,
LANGHAM'S “LIL”
y
RITCHESON'S “JERRY”,
fueron criados por decisión de W.D.SMITH
en la yarda del Reverendo Howard
Heinzl el 21 de marzo de 1951, lo que convierte a W.D.SMITH ética y moralmente como
el criador de todos ellos, ya que si ellos cuatro vinieron a este mundo fue
gracias a la decisión tomada en su momento por W.D.SMITH. Me ha parecido justo y
correcto dar el crédito que corresponde a esta persona en honor a la verdad.
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Centrándonos en el asunto del tema que tratamos decir,
que hay quienes dicen que los perros ELI / CARVER / BOUDREAUX (todos ellos de la
familia de TUDOR´S “DIBO”) son perros ILEGÍTIMOS por no tener el
mismo color buckskin que tenía “DIBO”.
No niego que el color buckskin fuera un color común dentro de los perros de la familia “DIBO” claro que no, pero
también dentro de la familia “DIBO” existieron otros colores diferentes al buckskin, como por ejemplo el color de
sus hijos WHITE “ROCK”, “CRY BABY” entre otros.
FIAPBT Pedigree Online de TUDOR'S “WHITE ROCK”
FIAPBT Pedigree Online de (TUDOR) START'S “CRY BABY”
Un ejemplo claro de cómo el color buckskin pasa al color negro más fácilmente de lo
que algunos creen, lo tenemos con un cruzamiento de perros idéntico al de TUDOR'S “DIBO”:
Mariano Peinado con su perra
llamada "RED OKLAHOMA" de color “Red Nose” a la izquierda, realizando una monta externa con un
extraordinario perro “ELI” de la familia “DIBO” llamado SCHAFFER´S "CLYDE", hijo de CH "JEEP" ambos de color “buckskin” como “DIBO”. 1998, Los Ángeles, California, USA. Extraordinarias personas
los propietarios de “CLYDE”, Mary Schaffer y su marido.
¿El resultado del cruzamiento de "RED OKLAHOMA" X SCHAFFER´S "CLYDE"? Mayoritariamente gano el color negro en un 70% frente al color Buckskin con un 30%. Esto no me lo ha
contado nadie, lo he visto con mis propios ojos. Un servidor es el criador de
esta camada. Incluso en la actualidad, en Villa
Liberty kennels aún tengo conmigo vivo un cachorro macho de esos que se ven en la
fotografía, el cual goza de la vida con muy buena salud a sus 16 años de edad.
Creo que este animalito, podría ser el último nieto vivo de CH "JEEP" que fue concebido con monta natural, teniendo en cuenta que CH "JEEP" murió en el año 1989, hace ya 25 años.
LOS CRUCES
CONSANGUINEOS Y LA HERRAMIENTA DE LA
SELECCIÓN DE CRIANZA, PUEDEN HACER Y DESHACER LAS GENETICAS DE LOS PERROS
EN BASE A LOS OBJETIVOS DEL CRIADOR, SEAN COLORES, TAMAÑOS, ACTITUDES,
CARACTERES, etc.
BOUDREAUX' "SCRUB" es un animal muy CONSANGUÍNEO, una cuádruple crianza de BOUDREAUX´”BLIND BILLY”. "SCRUB"
es hijo, nieto, biznieto y tataranieto de ”BLIND
BILLY” todo ello al mismo tiempo. A "SCRUB"
se le cruzo igualmente de manera CONSANGUINEA
con una hija de ”BLIND BILLY” y
biznieta de CANNON'S “BLACK SHINE” llamada
BOUDREAUX' “CANDY” y de ese cruce
salió BOUDREAUX' “ELI” de color negro
debido a la CONSANGUINIDAD. BOUDREAUX' “ELI” fue el fundador de los conocidos perros “ELI”.
Los casos de BOUDREAUX'
"SCRUB" y BOUDREAUX'
"ELI", son otros dos ejemplos muy claros de como la CONSANGUINIDAD puede
llevar al color negro.
FIAPBT Pedigree Online de BOUDREAUX' "SCRUB"
FIAPBT Pedigree Online de BOUDREAUX' "ELI"
@ HISTORICAL VIDEO: LA FUNDACION DE LOS
PERROS “ELI”, BOUDREAUX' ELI - THE LEGEND
En la fotografía de la hija de “DIBO” llamada HEINZL'S “POLLY” (color buckskin), podemos ver los cachorros de
“POLLY”, dentro de los cuales
podemos observar cachorros de varios colores, entre ellos también el color negro.
Online Pedigree de HEINZL'S
”POLLY”
El color negro
también fue característico dentro de la familia “DIBO”. El gen del color negro le vino a “DIBO” por diferentes
caminos.
Del cruce de TUDOR'S
“DIBO” con TUDOR'S
(HEINZL) “DINAH”, se reforzó el gen del color negro en la genética de los descendientes de “DIBO”, por medio de TUDOR'S “BLACK JACK”, su hijo TUDOR'S “BLACK JACK JR” y los perros
ingleses de Henry.
Online Pedigree de TUDOR'S “DIBO”
Otro camino por ejemplo, fue la genética de color negro de los perros ingleses que aportó
el bisabuelo paterno de “DIBO”, CORVINO'S
“GIMP”. Pero la manera más directa que el gen del color negro le vino a “DIBO”, fue por medio de
su abuela paterna de color negro
llamada HUBBARD'S “LENA”. “LENA” es descendiente de TUDOR'S “BLACK JACK”, el cual se
encuentra tres veces en su quinta generación, dos en sexta y una en séptima
generación. HUBBARD'S “LENA”
igualmente desciende de otros buenos perros negros.
Online Pedigree de HUBBARD'S
“LENA”
TUDOR´S “DIBO”, HEINZL´S
“ARIZONA PETE”, CARVER´S “IRONHEAD”,
BOUDREAUX´”BLIND BILLY”, CARVER´S “CRAKER”, CARVER´S “JUDY”, CARVER´S
(CRENSHAW'S) HONEYBUNCH, etc., aun
siendo de color buckskin, el gen
del color negro ya lo tenían
igualmente dentro de sus genes por la herencia genética recibida. “DIBO” por diferentes
caminos, transmitió a sus descendientes un ligero aumento de peso y el gen de
color negro, especialmente por el
camino que va a través de su hijo CANNON'S
“BLACK SHINE”.
“BLACK SHINE” a su vez, transmitió
a la familia “DIBO” un ligero aumento
de peso y el gen de color negro por medio
de BOUDREAUX' “CANDY” (Madre de BOUDREAUX´ “ELI”), BOUDREAUX'
“PEGGY” (Abuela de BOUDREAUX'
“SPOOK”) etc. gracias a la extraordinaria labor de crianza realizada por F. Boudreaux en este sentido.
Online Pedigree de CANNON'S
“BLACK SHINE”
(55Lb.)
Por otro lado, “BLACK
SHINE” también transmitió el gen del color negro a través de su hija CARVER´S
“BLACK WIDOW”, cuando esta fue cruzada con su abuelo, el propio TUDOR´S “DIBO”. Algunos de los machos resultantes de esta camada,
concretamente CARVER´S “CRACKER” y CARVER´S “LASSO”, fueron cruzados de
manera CONSANGUÍNEA con CARVER´S “JUDY” la hermana de camada de
CARVER´S “BLACK WIDOW”, con lo que el
factor del gen del color negro en la
familia “DIBO” aumentó
considerablemente con el resultado de esas camadas, por ejemplo: CARVER'S (TOM) “BIG BLACK” (“CRACKER” X “JUDY”).
Online
Pedigree de CARVER'S “BLACK WIDOW” FIAPBT Pedigree Online de CARVER´S “CRACKER”
FIAPBT Pedigree Online de CARVER'S “JUDY” FIAPBT Pedigree Online de BOUDREAUX´”BLIND BILLY”
FIAPBT Pedigree Online de CARVER'S (TOM) “BIG BLACK”
FIAPBT Pedigree Online de CARVER'S (CRENSHAW'S) “HONEYBUNCH”
Dentro del siguiente enlace, pueden apreciar el enorme
parecido físico entre CARVER'S (TOM) “BIG BLACK” y los
denominados perros “ELI” y “LOS
NEGROS” de la actualidad: http://www.villaliberty.org/Tom.htm
Del cruce de CARVER´S
“BLACK WIDOW” con su abuelo paterno TUDOR´S
“DIBO”, salió una extraordinaria hembra llamada CARVER'S “BLACK GIRL”, la cual fue
madre de uno de los mejores American Pit Bull Terrier de todos los tiempos
llamado CARVER'S “IRONHEAD”, el cual lanzo muchos buenos perros y varios de ellos
fueron de color negro.
FIAPBT Pedigree Online de CARVERS “BLACK GIRL”
Online Pedigree de CARVER'S “IRONHEAD”
LOS CRUCES
CONSANGUINEOS Y LA HERRAMIENTA DE LA
SELECCIÓN DE CRIANZA, PUEDEN HACER Y DESHACER LAS GENETICAS DE LOS PERROS
EN BASE A LOS OBJETIVOS DEL CRIADOR, SEAN COLORES, TAMAÑOS, ACTITUDES,
CARACTERES, etc.
Dentro del desarrollo de toda esa labor de crianza de
aquella época, el viejo “Zorro de Plata” Maurice Carver, fue introduciendo a
estos animalitos en sus venas cualidades y virtudes extraordinarias del
genotipo que les hicieron destacar, cualidades y virtudes que anteriormente no
poseían y el color negro era un
simple pero excelente indicativo y guía del fenotipo para reconocerlos
y comprender, que andaba por el buen camino en lo que Carver deseaba obtener en
su crianza con los perros provenientes de la familia “DIBO”.
FIAPBT Pedigree Online de WALLING'S “BULLYSON”
Maurice Carver & Bullyson y “LOS
NEGROS”
Gracias a la enorme labor de crianza realizada por Maurice Carver a través de su
experiencia, sabiduría y por medio de su herramienta, LA SELECCIÓN DE CRIANZA, fue consolidando dentro de la raza canina
American Pit Bull Terrier a los hoy conocidos como “LOS
NEGROS”, provenientes de los perros “ELI”, a través de “BULLYSON”, “ELI Jr.”
y “BRENDY” todos ellos provenientes y
muy cargados genéticamente de la familia
“DIBO”. Concretamente estos tres ejemplares hermanos de
camada, poseen cada uno de ellos el 69% de la genética o sangre de “DIBO”, o sea que
genéticamente viene a ser como si fueran hijos y casi nietos al mismo tiempo de
TUDOR´S “DIBO”, tesoros genéticos sin duda. Un digno representante
de este último ejemplo CONSANGUINEO
es “STOMPANATO”.
FIAPBT Pedigree Online de P. CARVER'S “STOMPANATO”
FIAPBT Pedigree Online de CLAYTON'S “ELI JR” FIAPBT
Pedigree Online de CLEMMONS' “BRENDY” FIAPBT Pedigree Online de WALLING'S “BULLYSON”
Online Pedigree de CLAYTON'S “ELI JR” Online Pedigree de CLEMMONS' “BRENDY” Online Pedigree de WALLING'S “BULLYSON”
“LA CUNA DE “BULLYSON” --
En el siguiente VIDEO,
tienen la ocasión de ver la yarda (criadero) de Jerry Clemmons en 1968. Con “Bullyson”,
“Eli Jr.” y “Brendy” cuando eran cachorros con su madre “SPOOK”, la cual era de
color BUCKSKIN, siendo otra manera más de comprobar que el color negro pasa más fácilmente de lo que
algunos creen por medio del color BUCKSKIN, ya que como ustedes pueden apreciar
en el video la mayoría de los cachorros de “SPOOK” fueron de color negro, entre ellos “BULLYSON” y “ELI
Jr.” Al padre de los tres, Boudreaux
“ELI”, le pueden apreciar cuando vean dentro del VIDEO al
perro negro simpático y sonriente que corre con su cadena. ¡¡¡Todo un lujo para
el aficionado poder ver estas imágenes en pleno 2014!!!
HISTORICO VIDEO de “Bullyson”, “Eli Jr.” y “Brendy”: http://youtu.be/3yKfeZDYBfE
Otro claro ejemplo de como la CONSANGUINIDAD puede llevar al color negro lo tenemos con TUDOR'S (Mayfield) “NIGGER”.
FIAPBT Pedigree Online de TUDOR'S (Mayfield) “NIGGER”
En los tiempos actuales,
muchos de los perros de la familia “DIBO” se
caracterizan por el color negro
debido a la CONSANGUINIDAD y al
resto de circunstancias ya explicadas. Muchos de los animalitos de la familia “DIBO” de
la actualidad, son los procedentes de los perros “ELI” especialmente los
denominados como “LOS
NEGROS”, siendo esta rama
genética o cepa de la raza canina American Pit Bull Terrier, los que en la
actualidad suelen tener en sus venas los mayores porcentajes de la genética de TUDOR´S “DIBO”,
manteniéndola fresca, vigorosa, viva y muy presente en los tiempos de hoy en
día, algo inédito y exitoso de la ingeniería genética que solo ocurre con esta
raza canina.
Lo que he aprendido durante mis
investigaciones y experiencias en el transcurso de 30 años en torno al American
Pit Bull Terrier, es que por regla general las diferentes ramas genéticas más destacadas en positivo dentro de la
raza, eran precisamente aquellas cuya carga de la genética o sangre de TUDOR´S “DIBO”
estaban más concentradas o cargadas en el propio “DIBO”. ¿Casualidad?
Yo creo que no. Esto es una explicación bastante lógica en el sentido del
porque los perros Carver, Boudreaux,
“ELI” y “LOS NEGROS” son perros con casi todas las garantías de éxito en la actualidad.
The Reverend Howard Heinzl. 1918 – 1989
(R.I.P.)
HEINZL´S “ARIZONA PETE”
The littermates TUDOR´S “DIBO”, HEINZL´S “ARIZONA PETE”, LANGHAM'S “LIL” and RITCHESON'S “JERRY”, were bred by decision W. D. SMITH and borned in the Reverend Howard
Heinzl yard, on March 21, 1951, what makes W. D. SMITH ethically and morally as the breeder of all them, because if those four
dogs came into this world was due to the decision taken at the time by W. D. SMITH. I thought that was right and proper to give the credit corresponding
to this individual in the truth honor.
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Focusing on the subject of this
report, saying that some people say that dogs from ELI / CARVER / BOUDREAUX (All them TUDOR´S “DIBO" family) are ILLEGITIMATE dogs because have not the same colour buckskin that had “DIBO”.
I do not deny that the buckskin colour was a common colour in
the family “DIBO”
dogs of course not, but also within the “DIBO” family there were other different colours than the buckskin colour, like the colour of its
children WHITE “ROCK”, “CRY BABY” among others.
TUDOR'S “WHITE ROCK” FIAPBT Pedigree Online
(TUDOR) START'S “CRY BABY”
FIAPBT Pedigree Online
A clear example of how the buckskin color changes towards the black color more easily than some people
thinking, we have it with identical breeding dogs at TUDOR'S “DIBO”:
Mariano Peinado
with his female dog named "RED OKLAHOMA" color "Red Nose" to the left, making an external stud with a
special dog "ELI" of “DIBO” family called SCHAFFER´S "CLYDE", son of CH "JEEP" both colored buckskin like “DIBO”. 1998, Los Angeles,
California, USA. Extraordinary people the "CLYDE"
owners, Mary Schaeffer and Jake her husband.
The result of the
crossing "RED OKLAHOMA" X SCHAFFER´S "CLYDE"? Majority won the black color with 70% front a Buckskin color with 30%. This no one has told me, I've seen
it with my own eyes. I am the breeder of this litter. Even today, in Villa Liberty kennels still is with life and living
with me a puppie male of those who appear in the photograph, which enjoys of the
life in good health with 16 years old. I think this animal could be the last
living grandson of CH "JEEP" which was conceived with stud
natural, considering that CH "JEEP" died in 1989, 25 years ago.
DO NOT EXIST REAL SCIENCE THAT CAN DENY ME THAT
FROM THIS LITTER CAME OUT BLACKS PUPPIES, because this litter I've done it with my hands
and I have seen born it with my own eyes. Also, my word honor is here attested about all it. This last I say
because some people who say that the science, "their science", says that
the stud of a color Red Nose female with a male of Buckskin color, the same
color of “DIBO”, cannot come out puppies of black color in that litter.
THE INBREEDING CROSS AND THE TOOL OF THE BREEDING
SELECTION, CAN DO AND UNDO THE DOGS GENETIC, BASIS IN A BREEDER GOALS, WILL BE
COLORS, SIZES, ATTITUDES, CHARACTERS, etc.
BOUDREAUX' "SCRUB" is an animal very INBRED, a fourfold breeding from BOUDREAUX'
"BLIND BILLY", which provided him the 93´75% of its genetic. "SCRUB" is son, grandson, great-grandson and great-grandson from "BLIND BILLY" all at the same
time. "SCRUB" was also
crossed in INBRED way with a
daughter of "BLIND BILLY"
and granddaughter of CANNON'S
"BLACK SHINE" called BOUDREAUX'
"CANDY" and of that crossing, get out BOUDREAUX' "ELI" of black
color due to CONSANGUINITY.
BOUDREAUX' "ELI" was the founder of the known "ELI Dogs”, many of this
dogs were of black color.
Cases of BOUDREAUX' "SCRUB" and BOUDREAUX' "ELI" are two very
clear examples of how the CONSANGUINITY can lead to black color.
BOUDREAUX' "SCRUB"
FIAPBT Pedigree Online
BOUDREAUX' "ELI"
FIAPBT Pedigree Online
@ HISTORICAL VIDEO: THE “ELI DOGS” FUNDATION. BOUDREAUX' ELI - THE LEGEND
In the "DIBO" daughter
pictured called HEINZL'S
"POLLY" (buckskin color),
we can see the "POLLY"
puppies, within which we can see puppies of various colors, including also the black color.
HEINZL'S
”POLLY”
Online Pedigree
The black color was also characteristic within the "DIBO" family. The black color gene came to "DIBO" in different
ways.
From the litter coming TUDOR'S "DIBO" with TUDOR'S (HEINZL) "DINAH" the gene black color genetics was reinforced in the "DIBO" descendants, by the inheritance coming from TUDOR'S "BLACK JACK”, its son TUDOR'S “BLACK JACK Jr.”
and the HENRY´s DOGS.
TUDOR'S “DIBO” Online Pedigree
Another way by which the black color was introduced in the “DIBO” genetic for example,
was the black color genetics of the english dogs that provided the paternal great-grandfather
and at the same time the double maternal great great grandfather of “DIBO” called CORVINO'S "GIMP", which
provided him the 25% of its genetic.
But the most direct way that the black color gene came to “DIBO”, was through its
paternal grandmother and at the same time the maternal great great grandmother
of black color called HUBBARD'S "LENA", which
provided him the 31´25% of its
genetic. "LENA" is
descended from TUDOR'S "BLACK
JACK", which is three times in its fifth generation, two in the sixth
and one in its seventh generation. HUBBARD'S
"LENA" also descended from other good black dogs.
HUBBARD'S “LENA” Online Pedigree
TUDOR´S
“DIBO”, HEINZL´S “ARIZONA PETE”, CARVER´S
“IRONHEAD”, BOUDREAUX´ ”BLIND BILLY”,
CARVER´S “CRAKER”, CARVER´S (CRENSHAW'S) HONEYBUNCH, etc., even being of buckskin color all this dogs, the black color gene also already had
within its genes by the genetic inheritance received. “DIBO” in different ways,
transmitted to its descendants a slight increase in weight and the black color gene, especially on the way
that goes through its son called CANNON'S
"BLACK SHINE".
"BLACK
SHINE" in turn, transmitted to the “DIBO” family a slight increase in weight and the black color gene through of
BOUDREAUX' "CANDY" (Mother of
BOUDREAUX' "ELI"), BOUDREAUX' "PEGGY" (grandmother
of BOUDREAUX' "SPOOK")
etc.. thanks to the extraordinary breeding work by F. Boudreaux in this regard.
CANNON'S
“BLACK SHINE”
(55Lb.) Online Pedigree
On the other hand, "BLACK SHINE" also
transmitted the black color gene
through its daughter called CARVER'S
"BLACK WIDOW", when it was crossed with his grandfather, the own TUDOR'S “DIBO”. Some of the males resulting from this litter, specifically CARVER'S "CRACKER" and CARVER'S "LASSO" were crossed
in inbred way with CARVER'S
"JUDY", the full sister of CARVER'S
"BLACK WIDOW", so the black
color factor gene in the “DIBO” family increased
considerably with the results of these litters,
for example: CARVER'S (TOM) “BIG BLACK” (“CRACKER” X “JUDY”).
CARVER'S “BLACK WIDOW”
Online Pedigree CARVER´S “CRACKER” FIAPBT Pedigree Online
CARVER'S “JUDY” FIAPBT Pedigree Online
BOUDREAUX´”BLIND BILLY” FIAPBT Pedigree Online
CARVER'S (TOM) “BIG BLACK” FIAPBT Pedigree Online CARVER'S (CRENSHAW'S) “HONEYBUNCH” FIAPBT Pedigree Online
Inside of the next link, you can
appreciate the enormous physical resemblance between CARVER'S (TOM) "BIG BLACK" and the called dogs "ELI" and "THE BLACKS" of nowadays: http://www.villaliberty.org/TomRobinson.html
By the cross of CARVER'S "BLACK WIDOW" with
his paternal grandfather TUDOR´S “DIBO”, came an extraordinary female named CARVER'S "BLACK GIRL", which
was the mother of one of the best American Pit Bull Terrier of all time called CARVER'S “IRONHEAD" which had many good dogs and several of them were of black color.
CARVERS “BLACK GIRL”
FIAPBT Pedigree Online
CARVER'S “IRONHEAD” Online Pedigree
“The INBREEDING CROSS and THE TOOL OF THE BREEDING
SELECTION, can do and undo the dogs genetic, basis in a breeder goals, will be
colors, sizes, attitudes, characters, etc.” (m.p.)
Within the development of all the
breeding work of that time, the old "Silver Fox" Maurice Carver, was introduced to
these animals in its veins and extraordinary genotype qualities and virtues
which made them stand out, qualities and virtues that previously did not have
and the black color was a simple
but excellent phenotype indicative and guide to recognize it and
understand, that was on the right way as to what Carver wanted to get on with
his breeding with the dogs from the “DIBO” family.
WALLING'S “BULLYSON” FIAPBT Pedigree Online
Maurice Carver & Bullyson and "THE BLACKS"
Thanks to the tremendous breeding
work made by Maurice Carver through his experience, wisdom and by his tool,
THE BREEDING SELECTION, he was consolidating within the breed dog American Pit Bull Terrier to
the nowadays known like "THE BLACKS", coming from the "ELI dogs" through "BULLYSON", "ELI Jr." and "BRENDY",
the three genetically very high from "DIBO" family. Specifically these
three specimens littermates, each one have the 69% "DIBO" the genetic or
blood, so genetically is the same like were children and almost grandchildren
simultaneously of TUDOR´S “DIBO”, certainly genetic treasures. A worthy representative
of this last INBREEDING example, is “STOMPANATO”.
P. CARVER'S “STOMPANATO” FIAPBT Pedigree Online
CLAYTON'S “ELI JR” FIAPBT Pedigree Online CLEMMONS' “BRENDY” FIAPBT Pedigree Online WALLING'S “BULLYSON” FIAPBT Pedigree Online
CLAYTON'S “ELI JR” Online Pedigree CLEMMONS' “BRENDY” Online Pedigree WALLING'S “BULLYSON” Online Pedigree
THE "BULLYSON" CRADLE - In the next VIDEO you have the chance to see the Jerry
Clemmons yard in 1968 with "Bullyson", "Eli
Jr." and
"Brendy" when they were puppies with its mother "SPOOK", which was BUCKSKIN color, being it another way to
verify that the black color turns
more easily than some people think through the BUCKSKIN color, since as you can
see in the video most "SPOOK"
puppies were black, including "BULLYSON" and "ELI
Jr". Boudreaux "ELI" the father of this three great dogs, you can
appreciate when you see within VIDEO in the begining the sympathetic black dog
running and smiling with its chain. All a treat for the fans can to see these
images in 2014!
HISTORICAL VIDEO of “Bullyson”, “Eli Jr.”
and “Brendy”: http://youtu.be/3yKfeZDYBfE
Another
clear example how the INBREEDING can lead to black color we have it with TUDOR'S (Mayfield) “NIGGER”.
TUDOR'S (Mayfield)
“NIGGER” FIAPBT Pedigree Online
In the
modern times, many of the “DIBO” dogs family are characterized by black
color due to the INBREEDING and the other circumstances already explained.
Many of the animals of the “DIBO” family in nowadays, are those coming from "ELI" dogs, specially those called
like "THE
BLACKS", being this genetic branch, blood or strain of
the breed dog American Pit Bull Terrier, which in nowadays usually in its veins
have the highest percentages the TUDOR´S “DIBO” genetics or blood, keeping it fresh, vigorous, lively and very in the
present time, something unprecedented and successful of the genetic engineering
that only occurs with this breed dog.
What I
learned during my research and experiences in over 30 years around the American
Pit Bull Terrier, is by general rule the different genetics branches salient in positive way within the breed, were precisely
those whose burden of TUDOR'S "DIBO" genetic or blood were higher or
more concentrated in the own “DIBO”. Coincidence? I think not. This is a pretty logical explanation in the sense
that the Carver, Boudreaux, "ELI" and "THE
BLACKS" are dogs with almost all assurances of success today.
MORALES “NEGRA”
during the time that it was in Mexico was well known like “La Negra Grande”.
In the picture, Ramiro
Morales and Mariano Peinado exchanging views in Villa Liberty kennels. 2010, November 02, Tres
Cantos, Madrid, España.
Ramiro Morales, was one
of the good friends of the Maurice Carver closed circle and the main exponent "The BLACKS" introducer in Mexico, remarkable work yes sir.
Ramiro
Morales was completely disconnected
from the dogs for almost 40 years. However, his knowledge and historical data about
the breed remain safely stored in his memory.
Although I know to Ramiro does not like
and does not want that I recognize him any merit publicly, worthy and very much
laudable by him, I have to make a small exception in this regard, since like
the truth is the truth to say, that Ramiro Morales in addition of gentleman
is an important part of the history of this noble and wonderful breed dog,
the American Pit Bull Terrier. So from these lines I would like to
acknowledge and I thankful to my good friend Ramiro Morales all the
great merit that he has, along with other breeders and dogmen that have
helped me and also very friendly and selflessly provided me many historical
photographs (forgotten in old trunks), which never saw the public light and
also for the valuable information on that time that brought me, which part of
it is reflected in this report a disaggregated way, under my own deductions and
conclusions as neutral as possible for me, with truth and common sense all
possible for myself and my understood.
This information is not only having a very
important to myself, I think that this is a historical information heritage and legacy of the
breed dog itself and its fans, where we should not allow to negotiate with this
information and also not will be lost over the course of years, due to
forgetfulness or unfortunate oversights. Thousands THANKS Ramiro!!!
❤ The authentic and genuine Pit Bull of Today, are the faithful reflection
of the originals Pit Bull of Yesterday...
THE FRANK G. HENRY DOGS (Updated May 21,
2023)
In the early 1900s, or early 20th
century, excuse the redundancy, from an advertisement in a dog magazine of the
time, Frank G. Henry, an important
an extraordinary breeder of the breed in the forgotten, prophesied how would be
the Pit Bull of tomorrow, that is, what the Pit Bulls of today would be like. Henry was so satisfied and proud of his
dogs that he could not imagine the Pit Bulls of the future, which were of
better quality than the ones he himself already owned at that time. That
feeling of Henry's was prophetically
captured in an ad in a canine magazine of the time, the ad that we can see in
the previous photograph heading this chapter dedicated to his person, his
little animals and his work in favor of the breed.
Henry took his first American Pit
Bull Terrier by importing it from England around 1895. Henry named to the
animal HENRY'S “RICHMOND”. Henry was so pleased with the performance of this animal, that he used
it extensively in his breeding plan. Within Henry´s the breeding plan, also
used different crosses with LLOYD'S “PILOT” and LLOYD'S “PADDY”.
HENRY'S “RICHMOND” FIAPBT Pedigree Online CHARLIE LLOYD'S “PILOT” FIAPBT Pedigree Online
Henry's dogs were characterized,
among other things, for being balanced dogs and for their physical strength.
They were physically proportioned, with a good predisposition for work. They
had a good prey and grip. As for the color, Henry's dogs were usually black
color, he also had some white, brindle and Red Nose.
Frank G. Henry's “RED TODDY” was
a Red Nose, which, due to its valuable and predominant genetics, worked in the
year 1900 with dedication and care
by Henry in his breeding plan, managed to transmit a great influence to the own
breed through its descendants, achieving in my opinion, just at the beginning
of the new century, inaugurating a "NEW
ERA" in various important "new"
genetic ramifications that would soon come to the breed, which would begin
to give much what to talk about among fans even in the present times.
HENRY'S
“RED TODDY” FIAPBT Pedigree Online
The
“RED TODDY” was
one of the most important Henry stud dog, if not the most. Despite the fact that at that time
in the year 1900 the term Old Family Red
Nose (OFRN) did not yet exist in the breed, or abbreviated
as Red Nose, indeed
the “RED TODDY” met
the 5 pigmentation requirements to be classified as a
Red Nose. According to Bob Hemphill, it was not until
approximately the year 1920, when Dan Mc
Coy began to use the term Old Family
Red Nose for all those specimens of the breed, which, regardless of their
genetic origin, possessed 5 very specific pigmentation characteristics, being the 5 pigmentation
characteristics that the “RED TODDY” showed,
being the following:
1º- Mantle brown color in
its different tonalities, admitting itself the white color, 2º- The nose red, rosaceous or colour
meat, 3º- The corner of the pinkish
lips. 4º- White, brown or pinkish
nails. 5º- Amber eyes.
Dan McCoy, Bob
Hemphill, Bob Wallace, Bob O'Neal and other breeders around them, used the Irish
Red Nose dogs of the old Irishman William J. Lightner in their respective
breedings, since they were the dogs they knew in their environment, they were
enthusiastic about these dogs and managed to make them very popular. I believe
that, for this reason, several fans today mistakenly believe that Red Nose dogs are only those, which
come from Lightner and from these
breeders from the same Lightner
environment who bred their dogs. These fans to whom I refer, who are under this
misperception, they believe it, because it was Dan McCoy, from the same Lightner
environment who created the term Old
Family Red Nose (OFRN) or Red Nose
in 1920 for those specimens of Lightner
himself that met the aforementioned 5
pigmentation characteristics, without knowing that before and after those Lightner Red Nose specimens, there were many other specimens in various
places, which also met the same 5
pigmentation characteristics , that is, also Red Nose, but from other genetic origins of the breed as good or
better than those of Lightner or of the mentioned breeders from his
environment, Red
Nose such as “RED TODDY”, or
its son HENRY'S “RED TODDY JR”, however, due to the mere fact of not being in their environment
and because, furthermore, these specimens had an important part of their
genetics of English origin, the breeding work carried out with them by Henry was not taken into account and
this question, happened the same tham with Henry
with other breeders who were not from Ireland, nor from the environment of the
breeders mentioned above.
It
must be known that at that time in the USA there was a huge rivalry between irish and english dogmens, in terms of
seeing which dogs were the best in the fight, since at that time dogfighting
was not an illegal activity as it is today in most countries of the world.
However, the blood, genetics or strains of both countries in American
territory, were already quite mixed with each other, since, for example, the
Irish dogs had already been mixed with crosses that were made
with English Pit Bulls such as LLOYD'S “PILOT”, LLOYD'S “PADDY”, BURKE´S “RAFFERTY”, etc. and vice versa.
William J. Lightner With his Red Nose
named as Timmy.
Those same fans, who mistakenly believe in the
denomination of Old Family Red Nose
(OFRN) or Red Nose, think that
only the Red Nose arose from
Ireland, without knowing that other bloodlines, genetics or strains also arose
from Ireland. various pigmentations as important as that of the Red Nose, but not so well known, even,
other bloods, genetics or strains also arose equally Red Nose, not only Lightner's.
Dishonestly, some have wanted to monopolize
for their own benefit, but to the detriment of the breed and its fans, the
denomination or nickname, which Dan Mc
Coy created for Pit Bulls that met the aforementioned 5 pigmentation characteristics and that many specimens of the breed
show from its own origins hundreds of years ago, I am referring, of course, to
the Pit Bulls known as Old Family Red
Nose (OFRN) or Red Nose. That
attitude is not right, that is ugly.
In the same dynamic as the above, in other
places, not only in Ireland, Pit Bull Red
Nose also emerged, and other bloodlines, genetics or strains of various
pigmentations as important as that of the Red
Nose also emerged. I think that the ramification
genetic or genetic branch called Old
Family Red Nose (OFRN), or simply Red
Nose, only belongs to the breed itself and its fans, because it are
identified genes, which are part of the breed dog American Pit Bull Terrier
(APBT or Pit Bull), the Pit Bull Red
Nose does not belong to any specific place, nor to some specific Pit Bull,
nor to some specific breeders, nor to similar matters, which lead to the
confusion of the fan, in some cases intentionally.
Bob
Hemphill (left), Bob O’Neal (center) and Gaboon Trahan (right) talking in a
diner.
It is interesting to
know that before Dan Mc Coy began to name those specimens of the breed
that possessed the 5 pigmentation characteristics already indicated with
the term Old Family Red Nose, from Ireland itself, this Pit Bulls were already called
with the term Old Family
Reds or even, by many fans, they were not even
called in any way, because it are 5 pigmentation characteristics typical
of the breed itself, as I have already detailed. The term
Old Family Reds, was used
to remember a group of Pit Bulls that lived around 1850
in the counties of Kerry and Cork in Ireland, which were bred by
some Irish fans for the aforementioned 5 characteristics of pigmentation
and in that place they became popular, since at that time many specimens
congregated, forming in that place a great family of Pit Bulls with the same 5
pigmentation characteristics, also due to consanguinity between the
specimens themselves, since some Breeders refused to cross their dogs with
others dogs that did not have the 5 pigmentation characteristics, since to be
recessive genes they quickly lost the pigmentation that they liked so much if
they were crossed with Pit Bulls with different pigmentation, but that does not
mean, that the Old Family Reds was created in that place, nor on
those dates, it is simply more of the same than what I have already explained
with the denomination of the Old Family Red Nose (OFRN) or Red Nose.
It is difficult for me
to explain all this, but I believe that it is becoming clear
that the Old Family Reds did
not originate with that family of Irish Pit Bulls in 1850 in counties
Kerry and Cork, nor that Lightner, nor Dan Mc Coy
neither Bob Hemphill, nor Bob Wallace, nor Bob O'Neal, nor
others, from the year 1920 were the creators of the genetics of the Old
Family Red Nose (OFRN) or Red Nose, because they simply showed
interest in a plan of breeding in their dogs based on the fixation of
the 5 pigmentation characteristics, and later, they will call them with
the term OFRN or Red Nose, since those 5 pigmentation
characteristics that their Pit Bulls presented are essence and part of the
breed and nobody else's, it's just that, simple.
This blood, genetic or
strain of Pit Bull, named in the year 1850 as the Old Family Reds in
Ireland and some 70 years later in the USA, as the Old Family Red Nose
(OFRN) or Red Nose, the common
denominator of these
terms, it is found in the pattern of
the 5 pigmentation characteristics already mentioned, regardless of
whether some of its ancestors were black or another coloration, the place, the
breeder, etc.
By TRADITION,
those specimens that currently show those same 5 pigmentation
characteristics, it is indeed appropriate, to continue calling them Old
Family Red Nose (OFRN) or Red Nose dogs, an adequate and correct way
to identify a group of Pit Bulls for its pigmentation. If the traditions are
adequate and correct, I think they must be preserved, but clearly, without
Chinese tales involved.
Bob Wallace and his wife Doris Wallace with his Red Nose Pit
Bull named as Wallace’s “Red Brave” AKA “Curley” in 1962.
Concluying, the denominations Old
Family Reds, Old Family Red Nose (OFRN) or Red Nose, are terms to identify
a specific group of Pit Bulls, terms which are not synonymous of creation
nor ownership, therefore much that some insist on affirming the
opposite to confuse and achieve benefiting their own interests.
One of the best specimens bred by Henry was a black dog
called “BLACK STAR”, with considerable genetic
influence from “RED TODDY”, which was owned by
Earl Tudor. Earl crossed “BLACK STAR” with “JACK SWIFT”, producing TUDOR'S “JUDGE”, an
extraordinary result, resulting from crosses between many black Henry Pit Bulls. TUDOR'S “JUDGE” was the great-grandfather
of HARVERY´S “RED DEVIL”, and this one, in turn, is the father
of FERGUSON CENTIPEDE, both Old Family
Red Nose specimens, or Red Nose, ancestors of other later Red Nose, such as example; BASS´TRAMP “RED BOY”, etc.
TUDOR´S
(HENRY) “BLACK STAR”
FIAPBT Pedigree Online TUDOR´S
(HENRY) “JACK SWIFT”
FIAPBT Pedigree Online
TUDOR'S
“JUDGE”
FIAPBT Pedigree Online
The
genetic ramification of Henry's dogs in descending scale from his Red Nose HENRY´S “RED TODDY”, followed by his
descendants (many of them black) HENRY´S “ BLACK CUP”,
HENRY´S “·BLACK BRANDY”,
HENRY´S “·PLUNGER”,
HENRY´S “BLACK STAR”,
TUDOR´S “JUDGE”, TUDOR´S “BLACK JACK Jr.”, etc., from my point of view, I think it is
the most important genetic ramification developed by Henry in his dogs, since it was one of the genetic ramifications of the breed that contributed to giving rise to TUDOR´S “DIBO”, which
, has from its sixth generation several times repeated TUDOR´S “BLACK JACK Jr.”, TUDOR´S “BLACK JACK”, which come from Henry's dogs.
I
contemplate all this and expose it, simply to make known a quite unknown facet
and I think it is important within our wonderful and noble breed dog, without
intending to diminish the merits of other breeders, who also
contributed very much that extraordinary
specimens, among them TUDOR´S “DIBO”, came
to be reality, breeders such as were; CON
FEELEY; JOHN PH COLBY; W.M. SHIPLEY; EARL TUDOR; W.D.
SMITH; etc., etc.
John P.H. Colby
and his wife with their four children — (1914)
The
genetic ramification of TUDOR´S “DIBO” is practically the base genetic ramification, the backbone of
the breed in present times, from which other very important genetic ramifications were generated, such as those mentioned like the ELI Dogs, the Jerry Clemmons
Dogs, Floyd Boudreaux, Earl Tudor, Reverend Howard Heinzl,
and of course, that of "The
BLACKS" from Maurice Carver's breeding
plan, among many others. From my point of view, the measure of value and
importance of each and every one of these genetic ramifications, curiously, go
hand in hand and closely related to the
amount of percentage
that they possess in their genes of TUDOR´S “DIBO” itself.
The genetics of TUDOR´S “DIBO” in its various ramifications, is internationally recognized precisely for its value, not only
for good reproduction, but also, with respect to the various qualities and
genetic virtues that they possess, to facilitate the effective and good
development of Work and Sports in which this doggies framed within any
of the genetic ramifications
coming from TUDOR´S “DIBO” were
and are entrusted.
Returning
to the main subject that brings us this day, Henry's dogs, after carefully appreciating some of the photographs that
have been preserved of his dogs over time, with special attention to the
photographs of his Pit Bulls with pigmentation of black color, I observe that
Henry was right, with respect to the statement that he expressed in his
publicity that can be seen in the first photograph of this tribute report, when
Henry describing his dogs that he
had just at that moment as; Henry's Dogs
of Tomorrow, implying that the Pit Bulls of the future would be like the
ones he owned at the time.
I
think that, indeed, his dogs could perfectly pass for Pit Bull of the present
time. I think this is largely due to the enormous genetic influence that Henry's Pit Bulls have transmitted in
various ways to Pit Bulls today, despite having spent more than 120 years in
many of their specimens.
So
that the reader can carefully appreciate what has been said before and later
draw their own conclusions, as an example, I show the photographs of some
important Henry's Black Pit Bulls,
which lived between the years 1905 and 1920, being some of the ancestral seeds from TUDOR´S
“DIBO”, from “The BLACKS”, etc.:
HENRY'S
“BLACK CAP”
FIAPBT Pedigree Online HENRY'S
“SHELLBARK”
FIAPBT Pedigree Online
HENRY'S
“BLACK BRANDY”
FIAPBT Pedigree Online
HENRY'S
“BLACK BRANDY”
FIAPBT Pedigree Online HENRY'S
“PLUNGER”
FIAPBT Pedigree Online
TUDOR´S
(HENRY) “BLACK STAR”
FIAPBT Pedigree
Many people considered “BLACK
STAR” as the best specimen bred by Frank
G. HENRY in all his breeding work.
HENRY'S
“LADY IN BLACK” FIAPBT Pedigree Online HENRY'S
“NAPOLEON JACK” FIAPBT Pedigree Online
HENRY'S
“BLACK TODDY” FIAPBT Pedigree Online HENRY'S
“MIDNIGHT”
FIAPBT Pedigree Online
HENRY'S
“BLACK DEMON” FIAPBT Pedigree Online HENRY'S
“BLACK PADDY”
FIAPBT Pedigree Online
HENRY'S
“BLACK MOLLIE” FIAPBT Pedigree Online HENRY'S
“BLACK PANSY”
FIAPBT Pedigree Online
HENRY'S
“BLACK DUKE” FIAPBT Pedigree Online HENRY'S
(LOWRY) “CZAR” FIAPBT Pedigree Online
The
genealogy in scale descending of Henry's Pit Bulls, were some of the
dogs of other good breeders in turn, I mean Jim Williams, Joe Corvino, Al
Brown, Earl Tudor, Maurice Carver, W.D. Smith, Howard Heinzl, Floyd Boudreaux,
etc., excellents specimens
of the breed, for example; TUDOR´S “DIBO”, in my opinion, the best reproducer of all ancient and modern times; “BLACK JACK” and his son “BLACK JACK Jr.”; “BLACK SHINE”; “BLACK WIDOW” and his daughter “BLACK GIRL”; “BLIND BILLY”; “CLANCY”; “GOLDIE”; “ELI”; “BULLYSON”, etc.
Starting
from the year 1900, in scale descending
from the important Pit Bull “RED NOSE”
of Frank G. Henry, the “RED TODDY” and its many descendants of black dogs, whether these
had a greater or lesser genetic
weight of the “RED TODDY”, their descendants , directly or
indirectly from them, other specimens with "RED
NOSE" pigmentation were appearing in turn, where some breeders used
the genetics of these and other “RED
NOSE” specimens and their descendants in their respective breeding plans,
later appearing others specimens “RED
NOSE”, as for example; HARVEY´S “RED DEVIL”, FERGUSON “CENTIPEDE”
, BASS´TRAMP “RED BOY”, etc.
Within
Henry's breeding plan and his
genetic combinations, over time, as they were worked on and developed by other
breeders, they would originate in new genetic ramifications, these being mostly
black color pigmentation and latter, some of these black Pit Bulls, they
converged in specimens with RED NOSE
color pigmentation, which, this type of combinations in the color of the pigmentation,
is something normal, most natural within the pure essence of our canine breed
from its origins.
It
should be noted that the result of breeding a male and a female both RED NOSE, cannot come out with black
dogs, nor with any other pigmentation than not be RED NOSE. Yes, black dogs or other pigmentation can come out, when
only one of the parents is RED NOSE,
as is the case of the “RED TODDY”, when Henry obtained
extraordinary
black children from him by covering him with females that were not RED NOSE. In the same breeding dynamic,
as indicative the pigmentation, we can also appreciate and verify the opposite
of this genetic effect, of black dogs, such as PIRAÑAS ARNOLD X LADY, coming
out extraordinary RED NOSE like
the RED PIT. Unlike the RED NOSE, it is that, from two black
dogs, RED NOSE dogs yes can come out
as in the one in this example.
With
these last exposed examples, it is more than demonstrated that the exclusivity of Pit Bulls with the 5 “RED NOSE”
pigmentation characteristics, belongs to no one but the breed itself and
its fans, as can be seen with all kinds of details in the report entitled BLOODLINES? and from the section “OLD FAMILY RED NOSE” (OFRN): https://www.fiapbt.net/ingles17.html
From left to right: Barry Scarcelo (Ponderosa Pits), Mariano Peinado,
Danny Burns (RIP) (Ponderosa Pits) and Gary Hammond showing the books written
by Mariano Peinado. Tulsa, Oklahoma, U.S.A. Extraordinary dogmen, excellent
people.
The
first American Pit Bull Terriers that Earl
Tudor owned came from Henry's dogs
in 1915, although Earl Tudor, in his
family environment since he was born in 1895, was always surrounded by American
Pit Bull Terriers. The culmination of Earl Tudor's breeding using Henry's dogs was reflected in his dog “BLACK JACK” and his son “BLACK JACK Jr.” , which were some
of the ancestors of TUDOR´S “DIBO”; https://www.fiapbt.net/tributesmith.html
Earl Tudor with 4 years old and "JANE" the American Pit Bull
Terrier in 1899. Photograph was taken in Kentucky before that the Tudor´s
family moved to Oklahoma.
In some moment in the Earl Tudor´s life, he had more than 100
American Pit Bull Terrier in his yard. Tudor
crossed the Henry dogs as pure as he
could and crossed them with the families of Con
Feeley,
Colby, Bill Shipley, etc. Earl
Tudor was 58 years old when he took to “DIBO” from the Reverend Howard Heinzl
from Arizona. The names that more appear in the first 8 generations of “DIBO” pedigree, are Earl Tudor
from Oklahoma with 39 times, Con Feeley
from Illinois with 36 times and Bill
Shipley from Texas 24 times.
One of the best kept secrets by the few breeders of the time
who knew it, was that if you breed a family of blacks coming from English dogs,
such as BURRISON'S “NIGGER”, the mother of HENRY´S “RED TODDY”, If a RED NOSE puppy comes out
of any of its litters, you should keep it as best as possible in your yard
without hesitation, to use it as a reproducer in your American Pit Bull Terrier
family, because it will be a stud dog with practically all the guarantees of
success in your breeding plan. Everything seems to indicate that Frank G. Henry knew this secret very
well.
I can attest since my personal
experience that this very well kept secret is right. My Red Pit (Red Nose)
was the result in the first time that I crossed two blacks in early 1994 (Arnold X Lady) and used it like my stud dog in my family dogs. The result? I can say
without fear of contradiction, I have not had another stud dog like him with
such genetic dominance over the females that it covered and to conveyed it so
many qualities and virtues to its offspring, giving outstanding results in
jobs, sports and big game (wild boar) where were used, including like a family
dog (pet) were extraordinary.
(TEX MEX) PIRAÑA´S (PANCHO´S) “ARNOLD”
X “LADY” DE VILLA LIBERTY
=
THE LAST VIDEO IN THE “RED PIT´S LIFE”
"RED PIT" Online Pedigree - SUCCESS obtained by some “RED PIT” children - Others
pictures of "RED PIT"
After the work that Earl Tudor and his wife Flo did in breeding Henry's Pit Bulls for decades, the
two of them and without even
knowing it, an important part
of their breeding through TUDOR´S “BLACK JACK” and his son TUDOR´S “BLACK JACK Jr.” and very especially through the genetics of TUDOR´S “DIBO”, he came together
in the well-known ELI Dogs, in “The BLACKS”
and many other good ones of today.
TUDOR'S “BLACK JACK” x HENRY´S “NELLIE”
=
Some people mention the possibility
that BOUDREAUX '"ELI" and TUDOR'S (Mayfield)
"NIGGER" are direct descendants of TUDOR'S "BLACK JACK" and its son TUDOR'S "BLACK JACK JR." (Both father and son came from the HENRY dogs) by its black color and
its physical resemblance, or so they say. We must not forget that we are
talking about dogs of the same breed dog, which is not surprising at all if any
of these specimens to show similar to one another, is normal that may occur
between individuals of the same breed dog and it not mean that they have to be
nor much less direct family, nor the breeders of these dogs lied in their
respective breedings when these breeds were reflected in its pedigrees.
However, comparing the old but
clear pictures of TUDOR'S "BLACK JACK" and "NELLIE", the TUDOR'S
"BLACK JACK JR." parents, with
the photographs and video of BOUDREAUX'
"ELI" and TUDOR'S (Mayfield) "NIGGER",
you might see on the top of this report, we clearly understand that it would be
foolish to consider that there was a direct connection between all these dogs,
both the color and the physical structure are not similars.
What happens is that some people or
“breeders” sometimes tend to misconduct with other breeders, by false gossip invent hoaxes to discredit
subtly in one way or another way others breeders who work dogs with genetics to
consider too competitive with which they breed, and them want to remove from among a vile and
petty manner. It also often happens that some people wish to discredit the
Official Pedigree of the breed (ADBA)
because their dogs do not have it, then also
inventing lies and gossip hoaxes to discredit intelligent and subtly the
effectiveness of the Official Pedigree of the breed, thinking that if they
get it, his mixed dogs in most cases, would be revalued in the eyes of fans
with little experience in the breed. For a proper protection and right
promotion of the breed, unfortunately I fear that we must seriously consider
this last, to find a logical answer to this whole thing, which is not sufficiently
clear nor clean.
To put an example of easy
understanding about this last, I add a private full discussion of the Online Pedigrees but with different names of the users involved in this debate, for not to feel them
uncomfortable and annoying to see that the private debate is now displayed in public. This debate comes in handy to understand what I am referring,
specifically between the contacts between users known as Mrs. X and Villaliberty, this last obviously is a server. Mrs. X as you will see in the debate,
is dedicated to intelligent and very subtly to discredit the honest old timers
and also some breeders of nowadays (including a server) that we Registered our
dogs in the ADBA. Mrs. X also is dedicated to intelligent
and very subtly to discredit to the Official Pedigree of the Breed in
International scope, I mean to the ADBA
pedigree, so that in this "intelligent" and subtle way runs like
wildfire among fans around the world a series of hoaxes and false gossip like
if it were a truth, gossip and false hoaxes that go with bad intention
against the fans and against the breed itself.
This debate is one of the most read and transited by the users around
the world in Online Pedigrees,
which I have to say, that it inspired me to carry out this report in which we find ourselves and therefore, I am satisfied and
grateful to this debate, which I
think can be a great complement to this report,
for that reason I add it in this place.
Online Pedigrees
Debate entitled HISTORY ON ELI/CARVER (By Mr. D)
From left to right: Ray Squires (APBT Club President), Mar Bartolomé (Villa
Liberty kennels), Kate Greenwood (ADBA President at the time), Mom
"Renne" Greenwood (ADBA), Abel Santillan (ADBA Judge & breeder),
Mariano Peinado (Villa Liberty kennels). All these are exceptional people and
exceptional dogmen & dogwomen.
Another thing related to this last
but quite different, is when some breeders of other times sold some of their
dogs without pedigree because they had some suspicion with the buyer, as it
could make them the competitive in the future and did not want to facilitate
their knowledge to certain people of his many years of breeding experience,
which did not inspire the confidence necessary to deliver the pedigree since which they could acquire the breeding
knowledge. Then is possible that some breeders, in some cases it might be
that not tell the truth to the buyer how the animal was bred, hence the saying
that some breeders did not want some people have their secret recipe of how
they had been bred their dogs.
Conversely, when they gave the
puppy with pedigree, this was completely different, because in the pedigree was
impregnated for ALWAYS the breeder´s
word and honor, like this
subject had been all the life, this was sacred
for the good and honest breeders and dogmen.
Richard Stratton showing at his home the first book written by Mariano
Peinado. 1997, San Diego, California, USA.
Returning the subject about TUDOR'S "BLACK JACK" and his son TUDOR'S "BLACK JACK JR.", like I noted above came from
quite preceding the time of the dogs that I have spoken in the first part of
this chapter, times specifically came from the 20s, so we should not think that
are the direct ancestors of BOUDREAUX
'"ELI" and TUDOR'S (Mayfield) "NIGGER"
like some people say or insinuate with intentions not clear, or just do it for
ignorance for wanting to appear something that they are not, at least for those
that we are located within the times in the history of the breed, is just
absurd to contemplate this possibility.
However in my humble and personal
opinion, to say that who really I do believe it is in the breeding work,
honesty, honor and word of the breeders, word and honor that placed
in its moment with all his confidence and in visible way in the Official ADBA Pedigrees of nowadays, as to come
right now to invent some gossiper with hoaxes and to question the honesty, the
word and the work of a lifetime of these gentlemen mostly deceased, without
conclusive evidence, by principles I refuse to doubt this question, sorry.
I'm not saying that all breeders of
yesteryear were saints, and even on occasion the falsehood existed and breach
of promise in some of these old timers with some of their dogs (like is the
case with any other dishonest breeders of others breed dogs), but when the ADBA became aware of falsity or fraud
at the time (and even today, the ADBA
continues to make a commendable research work in the service to the truth will
keep prevailing in the pedigrees), annulled
or amended according to the truth
with the pedigree questioned, for the truth to prevail against everything and
everyone, especially for the well and defense of the pure breed and his true
lovers, who are none others than his honest well meaning fans.
@ AMERICAN PIT BULL TERRIER WITH PEDIGREE ¿YES or NO?: www.fiapbt.net/pedigreeyes.html
@ THE
AMERICAN PIT BULL TERRIER, A PURE BREED DOG: www.fiapbt.net/purebreeddog.htm
@ APBT OFFICIAL PEDIGREE: www.fiapbt.net/officialpedigree.html
Earl Tudor and his wife Flo in 1973 showing so proud the TUDOR´S “BLACK DEMOND”
picture. Flo had a lot to do with the success of Tudor dogs, she
fed them, healed them, cared for them, prepared them, was on take care to them
all day, loved them... Flo was a "dogwoman" since feet to head. She was small in
stature, very thin, while a woman of enormous kind. Earl Tudor acknowledged the work of Flo saying, "I do not know how I would have got
without her help."
From Wales arrived; John PH Colby, who had a preference for the Irish APBT, even though after used very much
in his breeding to Lloyd Pilot which
coming from England.
From Ireland came to USA; W. S. Semmens, William J. Lightner, Jim Corcoran
(this went to USA to fight for the world heavyweight title against Sullivan and
then stayed like police in Boston), Mc Coy, Bob Hemphill, Bob Wallace, Johnny
McDonald (Gas House), John Noonan and many others.
The dogs arrived from Scotland, quickly merged with other
British and Irish dogs, so it was not followed its own line of Scottish dogs.
With the information provided in
this place, those who did not understand from where came the black color within
the genetics of ELI / CARVER / BOUDREAUX
dogs and the popularly known like "The BLACKS", all of them coming from the “DIBO” family and the influence that “DIBO” had with the
Henry's Dogs, I believe that now they will be able to understand better
this subject.
I hope that no one will take the
hint by my words here, since my intention was not to offend or upset anyone in
particular, I just tried to contribute positively and humbly with my opinion
from the heart and with good intentions, to the fans and especially to the
breed dog that belong our dogs.
WORKS THAT MAY BE WOULD BE OF YOUR
INTEREST ABOUT THE AMERICAN PIT BULL TERRIER
@ “THE BLACKS” HISTORY: www.villaliberty.org/theblacks.html
@ “THE BLACKS” VIDEO: www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=afVsbawKASA
@ W.D. SMITH, the great unknown of the American Pit Bull
Terrier, ❤ HIS DESERVED TRIBUTE ❤ https://www.fiapbt.net/tributesmith.html
@ GENETIC OF THE LEGEND TO CALLED “MAURICE CARVER” AND TRIBUTE: www.villaliberty.org/legend.html
@ TRIBUTE TO MAURICE
CARVER IN VIDEO: www.youtube.com/watch?hl=es&gl=ES&v=M4DnGJAMZDw
@ MAURICE CARVER MUSEUM: www.fiapbt.net/museumcarver.html
@ BLOODLINES? THE “OLD FAMILY RED NOSE” (OFRN):
www.fiapbt.net/ingles17.html
@ DIFFERENCES BETWEEN THE AMERICAN PIT BULL
TERRIER AND ITS DERIVATIONS TODAY, THE AST AND THE SBT: www.fiapbt.net/ingles16.html
@ THE AMERICAN
PIT BULL TERRIER ORIGINS: www.fiapbt.net/origins.html
@ THE
CHARACTER OF THE AMERICAN PIT BULL TERRIER: www.fiapbt.net/character.html
@ GENETIC AND
GRAPH STUDY OF THE BESTS APBT OF ALL THE TIMES: http://www.facebook.com/notes/federacion-internacional-del-american-pit-bull-terrier/genetic-and-graph-study-of-the-bests-pit-bull-of-all-the-times/10150424806175089
@ WHAT NOBODY HAS WRITED ABOUT THE
BEST APBT OF ALL TIMES, TUDOR´S
“DIBO”The true
history about Tudor´s “Dibo”: http://translate.google.es/translate?sl=es&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=es&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.fiapbt.net%2Fhistoriadibo.html&act=url (This is a literal translation by the Internet
translator, sorry)
(Original report in Spanish: www.fiapbt.net/historiadibo.html )
@ VIDEO. THE ELI DOGS FUNDATION, BOUDREAUX' ELI - THE LEGEND:
http://youtu.be/rwICO0MPc78
@ CARVER'S
(DAVIS) “MIDNIGHT
COWBOY”: http://www.villaliberty.org/midnightcowboy..html
@ AMERICAN PIT BULL TERRIER with Pedigree ¿Yes or No?: www.fiapbt.net/pedigreeyes.html
@ THE
AMERICAN PIT BULL TERRIER, A PURE BREED DOG: http://www.fiapbt.net/purebreeddog.htm
@ APBT OFFICIAL PEDIGREE: http://www.fiapbt.net/officialpedigree.html
@ PIT
BULL HISTORY – CRENSHAW´S “JEEP” BLOOD: https://villaliberty.org/jeep.htm
@ International NEWS from the Pit Bulls World
@ PROGNATISM in the Pit Bull, YES or NO?
@ The WOMAN in Pit Bull History
@ ❤ The GENETICISTS Scientists speak ❤ Unmasking the SCAMMERS that degenerate the breed dogs ❤
@ THE
AMERICAN PIT BULL TERRIER BEGINNINGS IN THE CINEMA: http://www.fiapbt.net/pitbullcine2.html
@ MISCELLANEOUS INFORMATION ABOUT THE
AMERICAN PIT BULL TERRIER: www.villaliberty.org/information.html
The American Pit Bull Terrier
Online Pedigree is a study or informative mode, it is not the
Official Pedigree. Caution with the swindlers!!!
FIAPBT Pedigree Online: TUDORS “DIBO”
Online Pedigree: TUDOR´S
“DIBO”
FIAPBT Pedigree Online: BOUDREAUX' “ELI”
Online Pedigree: BOUDREAUX´ “ELI”
FIAPBT Pedigree Online: WALLING'S “BULLYSON”
Online Pedigree: WALLING'S “BULLYSON”
FIAPBT Pedigree Online: BOUDREAUX' “BLIND BILLY”
Online Pedigree: BOUDREAUX' “BLIND
BILLY”
FIAPBT Pedigree Online: CLAYTON'S “ELI
JR”
Online Pedigree: CLAYTON'S “ELI
JR”
FIAPBT Pedigree Online: CLEMMONS' “BRENDY”
Online Pedigree: CLEMMONS' “BRENDY”
FIAPBT Pedigree Online: CARVER'S (DAVIS) “MIDNIGHT COWBOY”
Online Pedigree: CARVER'S (DAVIS) “MIDNIGHT COWBOY”
.
FIAPBT Pedigree Online: CARVER'S (HYDE´S) “BLOODY
SUNDAY”
Online Pedigree: CARVER'S (HYDE´S) “BLOODY
SUNDAY”
FIAPBT Pedigree Online: (CARVER´S) MORALES “NEGRA” (BOUDREAUX' “LUPE”)
Online Pedigree: (CARVER´S) MORALES “NEGRA” (BOUDREAUX' “LUPE”)
FIAPBT Pedigree Online: SMITH & WILLIAM'S “REUBEN”
Online Pedigree: SMITH & WILLIAM'S “REUBEN”
FIAPBT Pedigree Online: VILLA LIBERTY´S "TUDOR
DIBO" (“Mr.
“Ronnie”)
Online Pedigree: VILLA LIBERTY´S "TUDOR
DIBO" (“Mr.
“Ronnie”)
FIAPBT Pedigree Online: “CHINAMAN”
Online
Pedigree: “CHINAMAN”
FIAPBT Pedigree Online: (CARVER´S) R. MORALES´ “BLACK
LADY” (NEGRITA)
Online Pedigree: (CARVER´S) R.
MORALES´ “BLACK LADY” (NEGRITA) (No existe en esta base de datos.)
FIAPBT
Pedigree Online: “BOUDREAUX” (BULLYSON)
Online Pedigree: “BOUDREAUX” (BULLYSON)
FIAPBT Pedigree Online: CH MARRERO'S “PICHE”
FIAPBT Pedigree Online: CANARIASPIT'S “BAGHEERA”
Online Pedigree: CANARIASPIT'S “BAGHEERA”
FIAPBT Pedigree Online: “BOUDREAX”
(Montana)
Online Pedigree: “BOUDREAX” (Montana)
FIAPBT Pedigree Online: GR CH CHAVEZ' “LLANTAS”
Online Pedigree: GR CH CHAVEZ' “LLANTAS”
FIAPBT Pedigree Online: CH VTK'S “MR.
HANKEY”
Online Pedigree: CH VTK'S “MR.
HANKEY”
FIAPBT Pedigree Online: GR CH CHIP'S “SLASHER”
Online Pedigree: GR CH CHIP'S “SLASHER”
FIAPBT Pedigree Online: CH HOK'S “LIZA
II” (BIG GIRL)
Online Pedigree: CH HOK'S “LIZA
II” (BIG GIRL)
FIAPBT Pedigree Online: CH LNK'S “GINNY”
Online Pedigree: CH LNK'S “GINNY”
FIAPBT Pedigree Online: BOUDREAUX' “BADGER”
Online Pedigree: BOUDREAUX' “BADGER”
FIAPBT Pedigree Online: BOUDREAUX' “MISS
SKULL”
Online Pedigree: BOUDREAUX' “MISS
SKULL”
FIAPBT Pedigree Online: BOUDREAUX' “SKULL”
Online Pedigree: BOUDREAUX' “SKULL”
FIAPBT Pedigree Online: BOUDREAUX' “SCREAM”
Online Pedigree: BOUDREAUX' “SCREAM”
FIAPBT Pedigree Online: BOUDREAUX' “MAVERICK”
Online Pedigree: BOUDREAUX' “MAVERICK”
FIAPBT Pedigree Online: “COWGIRL 2”
Online Pedigree:
“COWGIRL 2”
FIAPBT Pedigree Online: VILLA LIBERTY´S “LADY
CARVER 2”
Online Pedigree: VILLA LIBERTY´S “LADY
CARVER 2”
FIAPBT Pedigree Online: VILLA LIBERTY´S “COWBOY
4”
Online Pedigree: VILLA LIBERTY´S “COWBOY
4”
The American Pit Bull Terrier
Online Pedigree is a study or informative mode, it is not the
Official Pedigree. Caution with the swindlers!!!
FIAPBT GENEALOGICAL
SECTION REGISTRY OF SECURITY
FIAPBT Pedigree www.fiapbtpedigree.com
In this FIAPBT GENEALOGICAL SECTION REGISTRY OF SECURITY called
FIAPBT Pedigree,
you will be able; To study the different
ramifications genetic of this wonderful and the noble breed dog, the American Pit Bull Terrier (APBT); To see APBT historical pictures never seen previously in publish; To
help to fight the criminalization that the BSL realises; To create easily the pedigree
online of your dog or the litters that you have; etc.
In order to be able to enjoy these
services, simply you must to register through www.fiapbtpedigree.com with the option the Spanish and English language. This new FIAPBT GENEALOGICAL SECTION REGISTRY OF SECURITY, the FIAPBT Pedigree, will be in continuous development by
the FIAPBT, for its constant
improvement.
So that you can have an example in view,
and go away familiarizing with the data base of the FIAPBT, we showed you the link of CH “PATCHES”:
Villa Liberty´s CH “Patches” http://www.fiapbtpedigree.com/imprimir_ficha.php?idm=en&criterio=50879 (in english)
Villa Liberty´s CH “Patches” http://www.fiapbtpedigree.com/imprimir_ficha.php?idm=es&criterio=50879
(in spanish)
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In order to see the FIAPBT Pedigree Online, you doing clic in the photo or in the dogs names.
In order to see the FIAPBT Pedigree Online and
pictures, you must
doing clic in its corresponding name. Once within his Pedigree Online,
you can realise your own genetic study in your own way. for example doing clic
in the names of the parents, will be able to also visualize its FIAPBT Pedigree Online of four generations, in which if you doing clic in its pictures, will
be open in greater size so that it is possible to be seen better the dogs.
Following in Pedigree Online and doing clic in the names of the APBT that
appear in ascending scale, you can get to find or track the dogs that you want
to study or investigate up to two centuries back, until the years of the 1800,
a barbarism of generations, more controlled than the own people. This great
amount of genetic information is something unpublished, surprising and
exclusive, that only own our wonderful and noble breed dog, the American
Pit Bull Terrier.
* FIAPBT PEDIGREE ONLINE, for to learn pure genetic or blood of the American Pit Bull Terrier (APBT or PIT BULL): www.fiapbt.net/fiapbtpeds.html -- www.fiapbtpedigree.com/?idm=en
In order to facilitate the genetic study of the dogs
and the breed itself, also we add to the fans the Online Pedigree database to facilitate his study, because the Online Pedigree could facilitate the genetic study those fans, which
are accustomed to do it through of this database. However we must clarify, that
this database the genetic study is more confusing, more annoying, more
incomplete and less reliable by various factors, which come it because of
malicious and unscrupulous people, who for various dark interests them stain
and harm the honorable name and efforts being made for over 10 years ago by the Online Pedigree owner. These negative and various factors that are
affecting the database Online Pedigree, for the experimented dogman in the breed genetics and those who have been affected directly in them, is
well known it for them, and they know very well what we are talking about. Some of
these negative factors are for example: Registers
of mixed dogs like pure APBT; Registers of Bullies or similars like pure APBT;
Fake registers of dogs that do not correspond with the reality; Registers of
dogs that no exists to deceive or swindle to the fans; Be made countless of duplicate records
for the same dog with dark purposes, etc., etc. These drawbacks in the database FIAPBT Pedigree Online
are very low or zero, due to the strict monitoring and control that is
constantly performed by dogman amply qualified to preserve the breed purity.
FIAPBT Pedigree for to learn pure genetic or blood of the American Pit Bull Terrier (APBT or PIT BULL): www.fiapbtpedigree.com/?idm=en
&
@ GENETIC OF
THE LEGEND TO CALLED “MAURICE CARVER” AND TRIBUTE: http://www.villaliberty.org/legend.html
@ MAURICE CARVER
MUSEUM: http://www.fiapbt.net/museumcarver.html